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“Law Firms Need to Advise a Win-Win Solution as per Clients’ Business Objectives” – Rajiv Choubey, Group General Counsel, Dalmia Bharat Group

“Law Firms Need to Advise a Win-Win Solution as per Clients’ Business Objectives” – Rajiv Choubey, Group General Counsel, Dalmia Bharat Group
The Professional You
Briefly, Tell Us About Your Role In The Organization And The Mandates You Handle?

I am currently the Group General Counsel (GGC) with Dalmia Bharat Group. As the GGC, heading the legal function, my role involves advising the management on all strategic matters relating to entire gamut of business activities of the organisation. It involves Mergers & Acquisitions (M&As), defending companies interests, risk management as part of overall GRC (Governance, Risk & Compliance). Apart from M&As, it involves advising of matters related to Mining & Forest related laws, Environment & Pollution Control related laws (ESG), Competition Act, Insolvency and Banking & Finance, Corporate Commercial (Corporate & Securities laws), Industrial laws, IPRs, land acquisitions etc. The list is endless. As Dalmia Bharat group is into hard core manufacturing, the plants, sales & marketing functions are located across the country from the Southern States (Tamil Nadu, Andhra Pradesh, Karnataka, Kerala) to Eastern (Odisha, West Bengal, Jharkhand) part as well as North-East states (Assam, Meghalaya, Tripura, Sikkim, Nagaland and Manipur). The Group has now expanded to Western region with plant in Nagpur and also in the Central region through a strategic tie-up. Since the business is widely spread across states, as a function, apart from the Central laws, we have to deal with different state laws and different High Courts and Tribunals. My team also handles entire litigation including arbitration.

We also deal with quasi-criminal as well as criminal matters with respect to any prosecution / or unexpected investigations.

In way we are like a small law firm advising our internal clients of wide variety of issues. The challenge for us to come up with solutions to resolve any business issues within the legal framework.

Tell Us Something About Your Journey So Far As A General Counsel In India?

I started my career in the year 1997 as a Management Trainee with mid-size companies. Those were early days after the Indian economy had opened due to the 1991 liberalisation policy. The role of in-house counsel/ general counsels has evolved over the last two decades. Earlier corporates were more dependant on external law firms for most of the issues as the in-house talent was not available. Only leading MNCs such as Hindustan Unilever, Nestle, P&G, ITC etc had a decent in-house teams/ GCs. As the economy opened up and more and more large-scale investments was started by the private sector, the role of in-house counsel/ GCs also started shaping up. Earlier the role of most of the in-house lawyers was limited to going to courts, a bit of contracting and briefing the law firms. The strategy part mostly came from external solicitor firms.

Due to the opening of sector such as Telecom, mining, automobile, electronic, IT, large scale manufacturing (even cement was a sector was under the Cement Control Order), infrastructure, Banking, Finance & Insurance, Media & Entertainment, Logistics and Supply Chain, shipping etc., challenges in terms of contracting, bidding, public-private partnership etc. started coming on which the Management wanted a quick turnaround.

I am law graduate and additionally also a qualified Company Secretary. This made my position unique (so with many others professional) where they could advise the management not only on the traditional legal matters, but also on emerging matters such as Competition law, Insolvency etc.

After working for almost 8 years, my first major break came in the year 2005 when I was selected as Manager – Legal with flagship company of Vedanta Group, viz., Sterlite Industries (India) Limited. Sterlite had a large copper smelter at Tuticorin (Tamil Nadu). As a professional, first time I was exposed to such a large manufacturing location which housed one of the largest copper smelters, apart from one million-ton Sulphuric acid plant and phosphoric acid plant. I had the privilege to set the legal function and standardizing contracts and process including the first electronic-compliance management system. This was done 18 years ago. I also exposed to Indirect Tax matters as Sterlite used to import copper as well as export the same. There are few professionals / in-house counsel /GCs, who get exposed to Indirect Taxation. I was later transferred to the Madras Aluminium Company Limited (MALCO), which was also part of the Vedanta Group. I had the opportunity to resolve some of the high-stake electricity disputes, handle international arbitration, desilting of shares. Further, MALCO was also into bauxite mining and hence I also got exposed to mining laws and visited the mines to understand how a mine works and the interplay of law and business in the practical sense.

At Sterlite, I also handled one of the most high-stake environment litigation by successfully filing a SLP in the Hon’ble Supreme Court (within 24 hours of the adverse High Court order). The hearing in this case went continuously for 24 months with various visits and report by TNPCB, CPCB and NEERI. It was a great learning experience for me to handle an environment litigation which had multiple facets including legal issues regarding Wildlife Protection Act, CRZ Regulations, handling of solid wastes, Secured Landfills etc.

From 2009 to 2016, apart from GC role, I was also the designated Company Secretary for the flagship company of Sterlite/ Vedanta. I handled follow-up ADR issue of US$ 1.5 billion and listing at New York Stock Exchange (NYSE) and was exposed to SOX Compliance. We also did a US$ 500 million Foreign Currency Convertible Bonds (FCCBs). I was part of the team and was involved in the acquisition of American Smelting & Refining Company (ASARCO), one of the oldest (1899 Co.) and largest primary copper producers of the world. The acquisition bid was made under Chapter-11 of the US Bankruptcy Code. Unfortunately, due to global meltdown of 2009-10, the bids were revised and we lost the opportunity to acquire ASARCO.

In 2009, I was one of the key members for acquisition of US$ 1.2 billion zinc assets of Anglo-American Plc., (a leading natural resource company of the world) in South Africa, Namibia and Ireland. It involved structuring to financing to approval of RBI for Overseas Direct Investments (ODI).

In 2013-14, I was the key member and lead the legal team for implementing a massive restructuring exercise (M&A), wherein under a Scheme of Arrangement involving Vedanta Aluminium Limited,

MALCO, Sterlite Energy Limited, MALCO and including the flagship Sterlite Industries (India) Ltd. into Sesa Goa Limited (the listed iron-ore company). It led to the creation of the present-day Vedanta Limited. This was a massive exercise which involved hearings at two different High Courts, with objections from project creditors, who for vested interest did not want the Scheme of Arrangement to go through. Finally, we came out successful.

At my role as GC of the Aluminium & Power Business of Vedanta, my team resolved a very critical issue of Cross Subsidy Surcharge (CSS) for supply of power from the 2400 MW Independent Power Plant (IPP) (4*600 MW) to the Aluminium Smelter in Jharsuguda. It was one of the unique and first case in the country where, 3 units of 600 MW IPP was allowed to be converted into Captive Power Plant (CPP) and one unit of 600 MW remained IPP due to long term PPA (Power Purchase Agreement) with GRIDCO, a govt of Odisha undertaking.

There are multiple other legal issues, challenges during my eleven years stint at Vedanta, right for handling tariff issues, to an Indirect Tax litigation where one official was arrested due to high headedness of certain tax officials, to other arbitration, litigation including contesting multiple investor related cases. The list is endless. It was a great stint with immense learning curve. I was identified and awarded the coveted ‘Star of Business Award’ in the year 2007-08 and ‘Top 100 leaders of Vedanta’ in the year 2014-15. There were multiple occasions where I was recognized by different CEOs for my efforts. The point I am trying to drive is legal as a function was very well recognized by the Vedanta Management and I am very glad that the efforts by me and GCs of other business, as we speak, Vedanta has a strong empowered legal team. As a professional, I have the satisfaction that the talent which we identify and hire and today leading the function within and outside Vedanta.

Post Vedanta, I joined HCL Infosystems Limited as General Counsel. HCL again was a very interesting and challenging role as I had shifted from hard core manufacturing to IT / IT Services. As a GC I handled a large team of 20 in-house lawyers. Right from contracting to vetting bids for IT services, to litigation (which was primarily recovery suits, Sec.138 NI cases, consumer and arbitration cases). In my two stint at HCL I was able to recover / save liabilities and get cash of more than Rs.175 crs, which was duly appreciated by the Management. I also involved in sale side M&As as we divested HCL Services, HCL Care and HCL Learning business as part of strategic divestment of loss-making business.

After HCL, I had a four stint at ACC Limited and Ambuja Cements Ltd, which then was part of Holcim Limited, world’s largest cement company. At ACC / Ambuja, I was back to core manufacturing sector with issues like mining, environmental laws, part from commercial and litigation including arbitration

Currently, as Group GC at Dalmia Bharat Group and as member of the Executive Committee, I advise the management on entire gamut of business activities. It includes M&A, litigation governance and compliance. It’s a very dynamic and challenging role as Dalmia is one of the fastest growing cement company with a current capacity of 47 MTPA and with an ambition to achieve 75 MTPA by 2027. The role of legal as function is very critical in the path of organic and inorganic growth. The legal team handles all kind of legal issues right from advisory, to contracting, to litigation.

Do You Feel That The Role Of General Counsels Is Evolving In Today’s Business Scenario? And If So, How?

As shared in the preceding paras, the business environment in India has drastically changed post liberalization in 1991. Today more and more private investments are involved in all sectors, be it infrastructure, telecom, electricity/ power sector, large scale manufacturing (steel, cement, other base metals, automobile etc.), banking & finance, insurance, media & entertainment, IT and other new age technology companies. It’s a long list. All such business is subject to sectoral regulatory framework, involving its own challenges. In such a scenario, role of legal as a function and as GC becomes very important as business needs sound legal advice and strategy. The legal function is totally ingrained with the business, be it bidding for new assets, tenders, bids or Public Private Partnership (PPP) projects, M&A activities. Apart from this the GC also is one of the Risk Managers as part of Risk Management and overall GRC (Governance, Risk & Compliances). In the last decade new and emerging areas such as Competition Law, Bankruptcy & Insolvency, data privacy has emerged for which the in-house team/ GCs have to be fully geared. Even economic legislations (viz., PMLA, economic offences, cyber-crime etc.) and corporate laws & securities laws (SEBI listing regulations, insider trading, takeover code etc.) have thrown new challenges. Hence the role of in-house / GCs is every changing and keeps throwing new challenges. As an economy, we are one of the fastest growing economies and hence the role of GCs has assumed strategic impotance.

What Are The Key Challenges That General Counsels Have To Deal With On A Regular Basis, Irrespective Of The Industry Sector?
  • Managing legal costs
  • Managing and retaining good talent
  • Keeping abreast of the latest changes in law and analysing implications on the business
  • Meeting the Service Level Agreements (SLAs)
  • Ability to management multiple issues of a varied sector and jurisdiction
  • In terms of litigation, despite pendency in courts, ability to get matters heard and resolve issues
What Are Your Thoughts On Improving Synergies Between Law Firms And Corporate Inhouse Legal Teams?

Law firms needs to understand the business requirements of its clients better and offer a win-win solution to their clients. At times, I have observed that various practice areas of the law firms work in silos, which unnecessarily consumes more time and increase in costs for the clients. Quite often the time / hours spent on research or the delivery on the assignment is not justified. Law firms should help the in-house team / GCs address issue of managing costs/ legal spend as In-house teams are under extreme pressure to reduce costs.

Most of the Law firms are sharing analysis / alerts on new developments in law and legal developments. This is a welcome move and should continue.

Overall it requires a collaborative working between in-house and law firms.

What Are Some Of The Key Tools That General Counsels Can Use For Continued Learning Education (cle)?

Live-law, Bar & Bench are some of the website / applications which I personally use and find them quite useful as they send alerts almost on daily basis for all key developments/ important judgments of the Hon’ble Supreme Court and other High Courts. Apart from that one can use Litigation Management Tools such as Legistfy, Practice League, MyCase, Komlit etc., which helps in managing the litigation data. Then you have the regular tools like SCC, Manupatra etc. which helps in legal research.

Any Advice For Someone Exploring A Legal Career As An In-house Counsel?

It is always good to work / practice as a lawyer with either a law firm/ independent litigator / Senior counsel for 2-3 years and then switch to in-house. It provides a good experience on litigation as an in-house team, depending the organisation has to deal with litigation as well. Secondly, one should have a good understanding of the economic issues, apart from the specialised legal knowledge. As in-house counsel, apart from law, you need a sound understanding of business and how legal as a function can be an enabler. We are not paid or recognized to tell what cannot be done as per the law. One has to find solution within the framework of law. At the same one has to be bold enough to provide the right legal advice as many times business heads do not understand the larger picture from a legal standpoint of view. I have seen organisations take shortcuts, ultimately landing in trouble or actually taking longer than expected. Corporates today and under stricter scrutiny from regulators and law enforcement agencies. The regulations are pushing towards better governance and with ESG as the theme, there will be reward and premium for good and responsible corporates. The in-house legal team has to drive GRC (Governance, Risk and Compliance), which is one of the important role.

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